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wouldn’t it be better
if you put her
someplace you mean an institution
a madhouse you just found the marble in
the oatmeal
you’re a lucky lucky lucky little boy do
you know why you get the drink from
the fire hole
[Applause] i feel like i’m taking crazy pills hey
you want to see treasure
[Music] you really are crazy i don’t get it doc
i mean how can all this be happening
it’s like we’re in hell or something no
it’s still valley although i can’t
imagine hell being much worse
now you want to get enough shut up you
freak come on
hello and welcome to movie madhouse
a show about the movies that have been
lost to the annals of time i
am travis fishburne i am alex bruno
and tonight we will be discussing honey
i shrunk the kids
a classic from 1989.
yeah a movie lost to lost to nothing
this is a very popular film and has been
for over 30 years
yes and rightfully so this movie is
great
yeah the joe johnston directorial debut
thank you every human for joining us
this week
um as the last couple weeks just want to
say
there is still huge social change
happening in the united states right now
there are still a lot of protests going
on and a lot of
positive action being taken on the part
of active citizens
uh and i do want to just say that the
cops who killed brianna taylor have
still not been arrested
so please don’t stop the work the work
is good and the work is starting to work
and if anybody has vhs or many dv
tapes that you’re interested in
preserving with the proceeds going to
uh black lives matter or another
uh progressive organization in that
realm uh
just get in touch with me on twitter or
on instagram
alex brunel and we can set that up yes
and with that let’s get to our show we
have a little bit of news at the top
yeah uh first off uh
today uh it was announced that michael
keaton is gonna be playing batman again
yeah uh i could not believe that when my
brother texted me
i thought for sure that they were just
gonna do something like uh
that that was going to lead to uh
something like um him voicing
batman and some like dc cartoon because
they do
a lot of those things would make sense
um
which even though kevin conroy still
does that
a lot does the batman for for that kind
of stuff a lot
um i saw that and then my
my other thought was oh is this going to
be
for whatever cw does this year for their
their big crossover event right i still
need to watch crisis on infant and earth
because that sounded kind of awesome
actually
yeah because it seemed like they got
everybody but him
that that go-around but no it’s for an
actual theatrically released
flash film flashpoint right which
uh my brother informs me my brother is a
dc guy uh
so my brother informs me that’s in in
terms of what it does to continuity is
not unlike crisis on infinite earths and
it’s just kind of a
retcon way to solve a lot of disparity
which is honestly exactly what the dc
movie universe needs i
i think after i’ve i i have watched all
those movies
uh i don’t like very many of them i’ve
seen all of them
um i i have not oh that’s
that’s good you can you can just
straight up
leave a lot of them alone go straight to
the snyder cut
straight to the snyder cut
um but i mean it’s it’s it’s funny
that they would do something like that
in a cinematic way because
that’s what they did to their comic
books right like whenever the continuity
and the comic books got too disparate
and weird they just blow it up and call
alternate universes
and like do all this weird rhett connie
stuff and now it looks like they might
be doing that same thing to the film
franchise because they
kind of handled the the canon and
timelines just as badly as dc ever did
in the comic books
so i’m sure and in record time in record
time
i’m sure there’s comic book nerds uh out
there who would vehemently disagree with
me and i’m sorry and
they are probably correct and more
informed on this issue than i am
but um yeah so that’s that yeah batman
is gonna be michael keaton again i also
read today that on the set of spider-man
homecoming
uh tom holland said that keaton would
like frequently sneak up behind him and
just go
i’m batman
and just quote batman while they were
shooting that movie so
i’m excited that uh the audition tape
that was birdman went well
yeah yeah cause then he got to literally
play a birdman
and then batman again yeah
and and on the batman tip uh and
other many other films uh joel
schumacher passed away today
which is yeah super sad news um
i mean one probably my favorite
schumacher film is uh lost boys i love
the lost boys
it’s a great movie um i also really love
batman forever i think batman
is a really good movie that’s the one i
watched the most as a kid
i can understand why yeah the other ones
as well but yeah batman forever that’s
when
that’s when the toys got interesting
[Laughter] uh and you know and it takes a lot
for director to admit
their past mistakes sometimes i think
and the way he kind of owned up to what
happened with batman and robin i always
thought was really admirable
so um yeah
bummer it was cancer super bummer oh
yeah i did not know that yeah
um um star wars
yeah i was gonna say um in a weird way
there’s like connections between like
the original
keaton batman film and the film we’re
discussing tonight
because uh batman was released
on june 23rd 1989
yeah so 31 years tomorrow and honey i
shrunk the kids was released
on june 23rd 1989. oh my gosh
yeah they were both released on the same
day day and date
wow i did not know that did not
know that these were concurrent films
yeah
one of the the notes i have is a lot of
people speculate that this film did so
well
its first few opening weekends because
of the uh the overflow from batman
people showing up and being sold out and
they’re like well let’s go see honey i
shrunk the kids
interesting um
yeah which is which must have been huge
for disney because disney was not
in the greatest place in the late 80s as
i
as i they were not i don’t know a huge
amount of disney history and we’ll get
into a little bit we have there’s a
little bit to say about that
with regard to the background of this
project but um
yeah that’s interesting 89 was like the
beginning of their comeback with this
film
in the live action forum and then little
mermaid animated
right and the little mermaid was 92 91
i believe it was 89 now was it 89 yeah
all right well confirmed yeah well
um and then uh on the schumacher note
uh joel schumacher’s uh directorial
debut
yeah it was eighty-nine for litterman
little mermaid well i’m wrong but um
his directorial debut for a theatrical
film was
the incredible shrinking woman
i don’t know if i remembered that yeah
with lily tomlin
and which this film
obviously like kind of like references a
lot of like similar things that happen
in that movie
and the incredible shrinking man they’re
kind of it’s kind of an homage to those
movies yeah totally
interesting did not know
yeah um
other than that stuff i also that one
one bit for me is uh apparently like mtv
is developing a whole bunch of daria
spin-offs which is really
oh wow like weird but uh
the first one is apparently a spin-off
about her friend jody
um and that’s gonna go ahead as a series
of comedy
central so that’s interesting uh
long i i love daria as a kid i love
daria now daria holds up like crazy
um yeah it’s been decades since i’ve
watched it
it’s still great man um it’s cool that
i just like that it’s still present in
the pop culture and that like anybody is
still talking about it even
you know in development uh you know and
if it winds up in more dari adventures
i’ll be very happy but we’ll see where
that goes
oh bring that clone high oh man
with miller and lord blowing up right
now they could totally do it
dude i i’ve been so desperate for
revival of clone high
for so long for anybody listening
anybody listening or watching who
doesn’t know clone high
clone high was an animated series on mtv
like 2002-ish 2000-2003 that was
co-created by
phil lord and chris miller who are
responsible for 2122 jump street and the
lego movie and
cloudy with a chance of meatballs which
is actually super solid and we’re
originally going to be directing solo
before disney was like this is not
working please
save us ron howard um
they co-created it with bill lawrence
who created scrubs in cougar town and
there’s other bill lawrence shows that i
just don’t know what they are and
it’s about a weird government experiment
where they decided to
uh clone famous historical figures
but the result of that is they’re all
about the same age at the same time
because they just cloned a bunch of them
at once
so it’s clone high where abraham lincoln
is best friends with gandhi and they’re
bad and they’re good friends with joan
of arc and joan of arc is in love with
abe but abe is in love with cleopatra
who’s dating jfk
and um man it’s good it’s a great
great real funny show um
oh yeah i don’t think it’s even
streaming i have my canadian dvds
as do i i have gotten rid of the
majority
of my physical media and the one group
out on joe’s like clone high
i can’t imagine it becoming available
anytime soon no
yeah that that was such a great series i
so
i cannot encourage anybody to check that
show out more that show has my absolute
highest recommendation
um so funny so great
i’m gonna re-watch clone high it’s only
13 episodes you can watch it in like a
day and a half it’s great
um yeah okay should we get into honey i
shrunk the kids h-i-t-s-t-k
as it were yeah well we can also
i’ll briefly talk about the last episode
of the
disney gallery mandalorian
show terrible title but it was revealed
today why they went with that because
it wrapped up on friday and now they’re
they’re continuing this
behind the scenes stuff with the making
of frozen two
oh my oh my god so are they gonna do
that for eight episodes
six episodes oh my god
who is that for who is that for
like star wars has like adult fans that
are interested in the behind the scenes
like i can’t is are four-year-olds
interested in six hours of making of
content for frozen two
yeah not even like the original frozen
just like i
yeah i don’t know i guess now like now
that they’re making stuff
they they’re specifically shooting
things with the intent to like
i guess release it on disney plus now
right
um sure so that means that means there
are cool things worth watching
sure that’s fun you know what below the
line people got paid and as a below the
line person
i’m for it i’m four more jobs for below
the line people
yeah hire me disney
do it and uh
uh also yeah with the the mandalorian
gallery
uh series wrapped up they they did the
final episode which was entitled
connections and it is like by far
my favorite episode of it cool uh
i haven’t seen that episode yet it
begins
with the camtono scene which the camtono
for people who don’t know we can throw
up that visual it was uh
it was canonized as a camtono in the
episode where werner herzog reveals it
uh but prior to that it was just an ice
cream maker
the wilrow hood ran around
with in cloud city and the empire
strikes back
and so the like the first five minutes
of this episode john favreau and their
round table with all the other directors
is explaining to everybody he’s
explaining to all these other directors
the origin of this
in the fact because nobody else knows
that this is a significant object
because these other people that are in
it or not like that
the other directors are not the kind of
star wars nerds who are like why is that
guy running with an ice cream maker
yeah they’re not those star wars nerds
he’s explaining this to all of them
and he’s also explaining to them the
running of the will row hoods which
happens
at every star wars celebration where
everybody puts on an orange jumpsuit
uh a fake or real mustache and an ice
cream maker
and they all just run around chanting
ice cream
ice cream ice cream ice cream all day
long and
john favreau is just explaining this to
everybody everyone’s mouth like
except for like dave filoni who’s very
familiar right
he knows yeah all the other directors
are just kind of like mouth-to-gate
like oh okay so so that’s that’s a thing
it’s one of my favorite things that i
want to participate in someday
and and speaking of star wars tv did i
also read a rumor this week that like
falloni has kind of officially been
named within lucasfilm as like
the control brain for star wars
television
oh i’ve not heard that i think that’s a
rumor right very much on board
i i yeah that needs to happen i if the
if disney doesn’t understand why that’s
an absolute necessity on their part i
don’t know if they understand what
they’re doing yet
but uh like the past year
yeah just put that in perspective for
them
i would hope so um so yeah
i i hope that i i hope to hope that’s i
hope you guys hope that’s true because
there’s no one
there’s no one perfectly nerdier than
felony which i’ve only really learned in
the last
like few months that filoni is that good
yeah um yeah
so with that with that i think we can
finally
get into honey i shrunk the kids yeah
h-i-t-s-k um for
ever i feel like literally everybody
that’s watching this has an idea of what
this movie’s about
so i’m just gonna go with imdb’s uh
short synopsis a scientist father of a
teenage girl and boy
accidentally shrinks his and two other
neighborhood teens to the size of
insects
now the teens must fight dimunitive
dangers as the father searches for them
that’s the long and short of it dad
drinks kids kids have an adventure in in
what was once a small but it’s now a big
world and
it’s a happy ending because there’s a
disney film that’s disney film yes
um some the background of the project is
interesting
and i i was telling you travis i should
have done more research about this
most of my info comes from like imdb and
wikipedia
and a few other sources uh there’s a
good article
uh by kelly konda from 2018 called um
that guy who made reanimator got disney
back into family films
stuart gordon’s journey to honey i
shrunk the kids it’s on the website uh
we minored in film.com i would have
liked to read this article a little bit
uh more in depth and but i only got to
like kind of skim it but um
so it was originally brought to disney
by stuart gordon and brian yisna who
have come up on this show before
uh for like unrelated reasons yeah uh
and just to to refresh about who those
people are stuart gordon is best known
as the director of reanimator
brian yuzna is perhaps best known as the
director of
society and bride of reanimator although
they have both made
a great number of films b movies
horror movies cult things um the movies
that they let up
they worked on directly leading into
honey i shrunk the kids
were reanimator from beyond and dolls
the first two of which are lovecraft
adaptations the third of which is a
creepy doll movie
um it’s terrifying and so if you’re a
little kid and it’s on
in the middle of the night and you’re
like oh oh my god
apparently what happened with gordon is
what happens with a lot of filmmakers
when they have kids which is he wanted
to make a movie that his kids could
watch
um he uh one of his daughters was in
italy with him when they were making
dolls and asked which dolls she could
take home
not realizing that they’re they’re demon
dolls um
so he’s kind of like oh i should make a
movie that my daughter could enjoy
and that’s the idea to kind of do a
children’s film was born and
like we said disney was uh not at
not the company they are today in 1989
they’re not they were not like this
huge corporate hand that had
the sway that they do now um so the
proposition of a guy who had been making
two guys who’d been making horror movies
coming in
and saying we had this idea for kids
film is not like i feel like as unlikely
as it maybe would be now
um and they were hired
gordon was hired to direct and yizno was
hired to produce
um it was originally called teeny
weenies
uh and it was written by stuart gordon
yes and ed naha and edna
co-wrote the screenplay to uh dolls
actually
um and he was gordon was really supposed
to direct the movie but
two weeks before they had hired the dp
they had storyboarded they had hired
visual effects people and then two weeks
before they were to start shooting
um stuart gordon got a massive nosebleed
during a production meeting and had to
go to the hospital and the doctor said
that it was a combination of stress
due to jeffrey katzenberg and high blood
pressure
and he was told he would literally die
if he directed this movie
so he had to step down uh
joe johnson was brought in to replace
him and uh joe johnson was the one who
suggested changes to the screenplay
which he found to be too
special effects heavy and he didn’t feel
the characters had much dimension which
given the movies that i know that gordon
and yes
have made i believe that um
and brought in tom schulman for the
rewrite uh
but i did notice in in one thing i read
there was an earlier version of the
script where there were actually
five kids and one of them died during
the sprinkler chaos
and that that sounds much more like a
stuart gordon bryan isn’t a movie to me
uh a movie about five children and one
of them dies
um yeah
i mean watching the movie with that in
mind
i was like oh that would have been just
so
so terrible i know it would have been so
wrong
how could they have recovered no like
the movie the movie is so great
and it i and bless their hearts i’m a
huge fan of stuart gordon bryan yzna
i’ve
met both of them at like screening
events or more accurately at stuart
gordon at a at a play he directed
um i’ve had the monograph i’m like
fanboys for these dudes but i do have to
say that this movie would not have been
as good if they made this movie
um the uh so yeah the original title was
teenie weenies
that’s silly and then it went through
several titles like the changes
are working on the big backyard was one
not bad but actually no that’s a bad
title grounded was another one because i
thought it would
appeal to the teens because they would
identify what being grounded was
yeah but they
you know they wanted a title that like
kind of like told you what was going on
right because you know it’s this high
concept film and it’s
yeah and it’s it’s a great title i think
honey i shrunk the kids is a great
title yeah um they apparently were
were scolded by uh some sort of a
teaching
organization for using the word shrunk
instead of shrank
yeah it’s grammatically incorrect uh
uh should we talk about the japanese
title that you sent me the poster
micro kids yeah micro kids it was called
in japan
i love this title and this poster this
artwork is fantastic
the artwork is so great uh but man micro
kids and i like that
moranis rick i like that on the poster
too oh yeah
um yeah uh
chevy chase and john candy were both in
the running for the for the lead
character that rick moranis wound up
playing but candy’s the one that
actually suggested maranas
which was history repeating itself the
same literally the same thing happened
on ghostbusters
as they originally approached john candy
to play the role that rick moranis
played and then candy was like i think
you should get rick
yeah lewis tully yeah with the
ghostbusters thing i read up on and
john candy didn’t understand the
character
and he thought he’s like he should have
a german accent
and have a bunch of german shepherds
[Laughter] and like right men and everybody like i
i don’t know
john no john we’ve already got enough
like dog references
[Laughter] so but yeah so it went over to
miranda’s who said like he instantly
understood the character
and that’s very apparent in ghostbusters
and here yeah
uh yeah yeah he’s so great oh man
it’s so great to see rick moranis again
i mean just like watching him again
because i don’t
you know haven’t he hasn’t been present
in hollywood for so long and i haven’t
seen i haven’t seen this movie easily in
20 years i think
yeah um it’s so good
i don’t have a ton of other oh yeah
sorry i don’t mean to interrupt you
buddy
oh no just like yeah just just the rick
moranis performance it’s
awesome to go back and just you know
revisit the
you know him and his his prime yeah
which
is just rick moranis because so great
every other actor has like this prime
time and then his is like no we kept it
that way
yeah and um
other there’s a few other little
interesting details
a lot like a bunch of it was filmed in
mexico city i guess they built stages in
mexico and some of the exteriors were
shot in mexico
they they the the neighborhood was not a
real neighborhood
they were building sets and stuff for
nine months and they
built not uh 12 houses complete with
front and back yards
for that neighborhood this is so crazy
it seems so wasteful
they don’t do that like they didn’t do
that back then and they don’t do it now
or you know they’re like
we’ve got a back lot we’ve got a
suburban neighborhood
yeah not let’s go to mexico city and
build a
set yeah it’s weird and like i’ve i’ve
worked on some of those back lots and
you feel like like they
just look and feel like you’re in a
suburban neighborhood it would have been
fine
uh and i could not believe this was like
not shot in california when i was
reading up on that yeah me either
shot mexico that’s that’s weird i
also thought weird um and apparently the
production company which is doric films
like the actual like
team that was doing it uh they took two
uh travis we lost your visual oh no i’m
gonna keep
uh let me i’m gonna keep telling about
this thing
uh you’re back great just that still
you’re frozen but
uh
um oh i meant to send you a technical
difficulties gremlin
well it’s okay um this is a good
at least the freeze frame is is
picturesque you look good
um but apparently the production company
took pictures of two houses in coronado
california
with the intention of filming there oh
you’re back hello
hello great uh and then after they sold
the script to disney
disney recreated those houses on the lot
in mexico and the homeowners threatened
to sue
disney if they weren’t paid so disney
paid them
wow uh there’s i’ve got another note in
here about disney paying somebody
because of being threatening of being
sued yeah the the music
yeah yeah based on the what i think is
the best one of the best things about
this i don’t know there’s so many good
things about this
james werner’s score is incredible in
this yeah the james horner music is just
the best my notes in here about the
james horner’s score is
uh when james horner had balls yeah
yeah i just when
i’ve been listening to the soundtrack
for the past week and
when i i learned like a little while ago
that james horner was illinois who did
the
the music for this it was i was like
what
james horner which
it just doesn’t sound like him it’s such
an outlier
and it just it it’s very big yeah
it’s so big it’s got so much personality
it’s experimental
it’s you know it it feels like he
like because the 80s were when danny
elfman started to to take off with oingo
boingo and then the tim burton films and
it feels like he was like
let’s let’s do something kind of like
that and there’s even
the beginning of one of the cues in this
film
sounds very much like the beginning of
the the breakfast machine
absolutely it was a big adventure the
twinkling and yeah like the toy piano
yeah
and yeah it’s just such a fun
awesome soundtrack it really is the the
whole
opening the the animated opening that it
has
um with that music just like that music
just screams to me danger yeah like kind
of like adventure
and i’ve always felt that way about it
where it’s just there’s this
real intense like oh my gosh this is
dangerous
yeah and it’s just yeah
it’s all it also has a signature it is
and it has a real sense of fun
too like even there is that danger but
it’s like it’s it’s honestly like you
know a great john williams adventure
score
uh not in a williams style but it has a
lot of the same hallmarks
where it’s big it’s bombastic the themes
are memorable and
it conveys the emotions correctly um
and just like just to go over like just
you know
uh we all know horner scores he scored a
lot of the star trek films he scored
like most of james cameron’s filmography
including titanic
uh he did willow both cocoon movies too
i learned both of them
um but as you were alluding to the
the film the film score heavily
references
and interpolates powerhouse by raymond
scott
uh which you may remember from like old
looney tunes um
that that seg that section that music
piece of music was also
uh repurposed in a they might be giant
song called rhythm section one ad
um and that’s just like a hugely popular
piece of music that
the ripoff was way way too blatant uh
for scott’s estate to not notice
um and he never credited it and he never
acknowledged it no but they were paid
yeah
uh yeah so the estate threatened to sue
and disney
paid an undisclosed amount in an out of
court settlement yep
uh uh i guess does he just talk about
this sequel at another time
um but i i you know i
i’ve always been aware that this movie
and the movie that comes after
have two very distinct uh scores that
sound really nothing like each other and
don’t remember the score that blew up
the kid very well actually at least off
the top of my head so that’ll be
interesting to revisit
yeah so uh reading this i’m like oh that
that might be why
they you know went with an entirely
different direction and the the sequel
could be as far scored um
so yeah i guess this is a good way to
transition to the personnel
um we mentioned that joe johnson
directed this movie this is his
directorial debut we’ve talked about joe
johnson on the podcast before because
hello ewoks films
um but uh he was also like
second unit director before this he’s
also a second unit director on batteries
not included he was a producer on willow
uh he’d go on to direct the rocketeer
pagemaster jumanji captain america
um so we talked about the screenwriters
a bit
uh tom schulman who is the guy brought
in to uh rewrite the script when joe
johnson came on board
uh also wrote dead poets society he
wrote what about bob
which i was kind of really chuffed to
learn because
what about bob is absolutely like in my
top 10 of the early 90s i think i really
really love
what about bob um
and then wrote eight heads in a duffel
bag which i haven’t seen in many years
but i’ve
heard is not very good and holy man
actually which is a movie that i we
we talked about this i yeah i uh liked
this movie
a lot growing up revisited it recently
it was a bummer it’s not good so
um yeah that was interesting to learn
that stuff
um hero narita was the director of
photography
who uh doesn’t have like the most
impressive filmography which surprised
me because like i think the
cinematography in this movie is
fantastic
yeah i think so too in cool
yeah with especially with all the shots
that
the two different worlds that had to be
created yeah
that had to line up i think they did a
very good job with that yeah it all hung
together
beautifully uh due in large part to the
way it was shot
um he also was the dp on the rocketeer
um he also did the arrival with charlie
sheen
uh then seemed to slip into a bunch of b
movies but one thing i did notice is we
uh we watched tummy trouble
oh right we didn’t mention tummy trouble
um yeah tummy trouble was a roger rabbit
short film
that played before the film theatrically
and was before the film on vhs
so we also did watch tummy trouble
yes we did which is available on disney
plus and i’ve made a couple notes about
that when we get to the viewing notes
part
yeah this movie like the the tummy
trouble tummy trouble
uh roger rabbit cartoon and the movie
are just like
forever linked in my mind i it’s hard to
like think of like a one without the
other
and the fact that james horner also did
the
the score for tommy trouble as well and
again relied heavily on powerhouse which
makes sense because it’s like in
reference to like old looney tunes
cartoons yes
um it’s also
it was a weird revelation to me when i
realized that joe johnston had directed
this movie when i figured that out
because for the longest time
i associated this movie with um
joe dante because interesting joe
dante-ish probably because of the score
the fact that it relies heavily on
powerhouse
and it feels very loony toonish yeah and
i can
absolutely see your your reasoning in
that yeah
um man can’t beat those early 90s joe
dante movies either
um but yeah tummy trouble is really fun
uh hiro narita was also the
director of photography on the live
action portion of tummy trouble
um which frank marshall directed that
little live action portion
i saw that in the credits and i was like
frank marshall
um i also want to point out so the the
uh i didn’t i messed up i didn’t look up
the animation director on tummy trouble
but it’s not
richard williams who is the animation
director on who framed roger rabbit
who’s a mess
who was a master animator um and that’s
there’s a very long story about richard
williams and how he was kind of wronged
by disney
actually uh they totally stole
uh aladdin like as a concept from a film
he had been working on for
almost 20 years prior to disney going
into production on aladdin
this whole thing it was called the thief
and the cobbler read about it
it’s an interesting thing um but
uh richard williams has a brief
appearance in tummy trouble as the voice
of droopy dog and it was actually
an outtake line from who framed roger
rabbit that was repurposed in tummy
trouble
um this has a nice little connection
um i also as we were watching as i was
watching tummy trouble i
i wished desperately that disney would
allow their classic animated films to
look like this scan
because i don’t know if you’ve like
revisited uh
like uh robin hood or any of like the
really classic
uh disney things that all the grain is
scrubbed out of them the colors are
amped up in like such a weird way
they look like they look too clean
to me yeah um just for my
personal taste and seeing film
matters in a high def digital world uh
the scan of
of tummy trouble looked really beautiful
and i wish more disney animated things
would look that way on the streaming
service
yeah um ironic because they probably
just
you know right they probably just can’t
do much work to this one exactly let it
go
they did they scanned it cleaned up the
dirt and put it up and it looks great
and i wish that they would allow uh
other parts of their of their history to
go up uh
in a more authentic looking way yeah um
the the animation director for tubby
trouble is uh rob minkoff
the uh the lion king oh okay
so yeah um and here’s i was telling you
i was kind of hinting about this when we
were talking before the show
uh a name i noticed in the credits of
this movie but is not on imdb
is that rich victor director of
photography
from adventures of dinosaur city was the
director of photography of the visual
effects
in this movie oh wow uh
one of the few people from adventures in
dinosaur
city to have more credits yeah and uh
that was
i don’t know that’s really interesting
to me because it’s like i i feel like a
lot of these
films that we’ve been talking about from
this era share a lot of like share a lot
of dna in terms of design and tone and
all these things and it’s interesting to
find the
the people that cross over yeah um
and then there’s other there’s other
crew people i just wanted to give a
shout out to because their work was so
beautiful
aside from all the effects people who
like now i would literally be reading
the list of
the entire effects department uh so i
encourage people just to go and read the
names of the people who made these
beautiful things
but uh michael a stevenson was the
editor um
i wanted to just cite that because the
movie is really tight it’s a really
great cut
um he was an in-house editor for disney
for a long time he cut three men and a
baby
he did honey i blew up the kid sandlot
jungle jungle flubber
um nice little history
uh the production designer was a guy
named greg fineska
who is production designer on uh
nightmare elm street one and two house
critters uh both wayne’s world movies
and coneheads
unfortunately he was also the production
designer on soul man
um which is the film that
uh stars see thomas hal lying about
being a black person to get a minority
scholarship to go to college and then
does most of the movie in blackface
um that’s a real movie from the late 80s
they’re not going to remake that anytime
soon i do not think so
um and then i wanted to just call out
the art team
uh dory cooper art director john
iacovelli was an art director macedonio
ramos
a set decorator beautiful work
carol bralasky was the costume designer
and she only has two credits
on her whole imdb there’s two credits
for the woman who designed the costumes
in this film which i think are like
really great earthy costumes i love the
way that kids look by the end of it i
think it’s fantastic
and another name i noticed on imdb was
an uncredited onset technician named
emmanuel vunyos
and i just wanted to call that out
because that’s a guy no it’s a he’s a dp
that i’ve worked for and
he’s a really nice guy and apparently he
was some kind of an onset uh
grip or tech or something for honey i
shrunk the kids so
awesome what’s up manny you’re never
gonna see this
but manny’s a nice dude i like him a lot
um so yeah i think that’s what i got for
uh
for the for the crew
what we got for the cast travis oh my
goodness
well this star is this is top build with
rick moranis of course
which we we’ve already discussed you
know ghostbusters
strange brew uh so many other spaceballs
um
spaceballs yes he’s blowing up in the
80s
and then uh matt frewer
who played the the neighbor and the the
thompson kid’s father he played big russ
which he’s most notable as a max
headroom probably people know him as yep
um and then looking at his imdb
i did not realize he voiced panic in
hercules
oh yeah uh yeah i didn’t realize that
either but that makes a lot of sense
um i as soon as i write that out oh yeah
i i mean pain obviously is right
um why am i brain farting on
uh bob bobcat goldthwait
oh yeah right yeah um matt frewer
i’ve been a i’ve loved his work for so
long i’ve
always really liked matt frewer and it’s
from an early age probably because of
this movie but he just seemed to pop up
in stuff that i would see
a lot
i think one of the other ones that was a
weird thing that i watched a lot when i
was a young person was
fox made a tv movie out of marvel’s
generation x
which was in their x-men family of books
um
and it was kind of like a pilot that for
a series that never got picked up but it
aired as a tv movie and he was the bad
guy in that and he is just like
around i just watched i just rewatched
the tv adaptation of stephen king’s the
stand where he plays trash man
uh yeah i saw that as well i’m like oh
he was in that
yeah uh matt freeware is an absolutely
indispensable character actor he’s a
really really wonderful performer and i
love seeing him anytime
any chance i get and
i did not realize that he played a
molok the mystic in the zack snyder
watchman
i didn’t realize that either all right i
didn’t remember that i probably
remembered it at the time it was my
watchman portraits
yes i did not make a visual note of that
but i was like i can show it off
he’s got such a great distinctive face
like i just i just love him
he’s he’s wonderful and he’s you know
he’s a working character actor
if if you’ve watched tv at all in the
last 25 years you’ve seen matt frewer in
something
yeah um yeah and then we’ve got
christine sutherland who played uh
mae thompson and she’s most notable for
buffy the vampire slayer um
which i i’m not very familiar with buffy
at all but i saw
that seemed to be the most notable thing
that she was at yeah that’s that’s
absolutely what i know her from most
outside of this movie uh i’ve seen all
buffy i think twice
um and uh yeah many
i mean buffy fans will remember i
there’s there’s a specific episode that
i don’t want to go into spoilers for the
show but there’s
there’s a episode that’s very memorable
for fans at centers around her
and it’s actually like a deeply deeply
upsetting episode it’s great
it’s really great but she’s she’s
wonderful in that show she’s a wonderful
uh mother actress i guess i don’t know
um and then we’ve got uh
sutherland that’s who i just said
martial strassman
yes who we know recently from a film
we’ve already covered called
uh so you thought your parents were
weird
yep yep we do where she plays
another mother to some kids who are
making inventions
in the garage this time not the addict
this lady just keeps marrying scientists
it’s it’s it it still strikes me as
weird that she would take that job
after this job yeah but
and at the time like she knew i
i mean the the success of this movie was
so big they were already
rolling at least in pre-production on
blew up the kid
where she played you know the same
character again so
it’s not like i don’t know it was
just an interesting you know type cast
situation where she took that on
um and then we’ve got uh
thomas wilson brown played little russ
and he’s no not a big uh
they’re like the kids didn’t do a lot in
general
no um yeah
and then uh jared rushton who played
ron thompson the little brother he
probably has the the best
um list because he was the best friend
billy and big oh that’s right
he was also one of the kids in overboard
and he was in a pet cemetery too
oh and just like looking at
i i’ve not seen pet cemetery too i’ve
only seen the first one but
looking at his character he seemed to
play like kind of a bully
which i’m like yeah you get this he has
a very tom felton draco
malfoy thank you yes that is absolutely
a good way to put it because like i
spent so much of the movie
wanting to punch this kid actually he’s
a little
he’s a little jerk ass um
yeah he’s a little jerk for most of it i
mean he gets feelings at one point
yeah and he helps him out with that yeah
i mean all the characters have
have arcs that they realize so
you know everybody’s a nice person at
the end of it um
uh and then amy o’neil played amy
zielinski
um yeah quite a recurring role in the
young and the restless before this movie
interesting um and
then both amy o’neill and jared rushton
were in a failed nbc
pilot for a show called where’s rodney
are you familiar with this no but i love
that you’re talking about a failed pilot
oh this let me is it available to watch
uh is it on youtube or the whole thing
the the intro at least is on and it’s
about
a kid it’s about a 12 year old boy named
rodney barnes looks for advice and
inspiration from his idol
stand-up comic rodney dangerfield
and it’s a show in which this kid you
know in school
he occasionally can summon
and teleport rodney dangerfield into his
life
to give him advice wow
and nbc it’s listed in imdb as a short
movie
right that’s how they list on aired
pilots yeah and it was
they actually aired it yeah they they
did they had not ordered it to series
but they decided to just like air it one
night because they thought
would mistake it as a rodney dangerfield
special
that’s so weird i’m going to have to
find somewhere where i can download
where’s rodney because it it’s a it is i
i’m looking in a couple places it’s
floating around
it’s around yeah it’s got a young broken
meyer in it
why would i who who were these agents
that were like
yes rodney dangerfield perfect for
children
a lot of people were doing cocaine in
the 80s travis a lot of people were
doing cocaine
and it’s got a real sweet theme song
which
everybody in the podcast just heard
[Laughter] uh it was produced by aaron’s spelling
productions apparently
oh boy oh boy
and then uh robert oliveira who played
nick zielinski
um he was an edward sither scissorhands
yes
oven but really that’s all about all he
did yeah he didn’t do much he was honey
i believe the kid he reprised his role
in honey i blew up the kid right
yeah yep after that uh he
basically that was his last role and
he decided to just start a family in
florida
apparently that’s nice yeah that’s nice
um i can imagine like if you had a good
enough deal
and you did honey i shrunk the kids that
probably pays for most of your life
i don’t know though i don’t know and
then we got a
some brief little appearances there’s
one from uh kimmy robertson who played
gloria
be still my heart miss kimi robinson
uh i realized i realized watching it
this time
i don’t think i’ve watched honey i
shrunk the kid since the first time i
watched twin peaks
which was sometime when i was a teenager
because i had no idea kimmy robertson
was in this movie
um but it makes sense because i do
remember the first time my first time
watching twin peaks
kind of feeling like i was familiar with
her but not being able to place her
and i’ve seen her in a bunch of stuff
since and i’ve met her a couple times
um but uh i did not really realize she
was in this movie so when she showed up
she’s like oh kimmy’s here
and then her movie husband mark l taylor
of course
yes this is an inner space arachnophobia
homeward bound he’s a face you recognize
i feel like oh yeah he’s
uh he’s a character actor he’s been
around for forever
he’s wonderful yeah and then we got carl
stephen who played tommy
oh yeah what do i recognize him from can
you tell me do i recognize him from
anything
nothing big okay the biggest thing i can
tell you is
he was young spock briefly in uh
star trek three the search for spock uh
i’m
not i’m on his imdb i can tell you what
i recognize him from okay and it’s the
weird science tv show
ah yeah that’d be it it was the weird
science tv show where i think he
probably played a younger brother or
something i’m not totally sure but
uh yep definitely also
the voice of fred in the uh
a pup named scooby-doo tv series which
that’s funny my my kids are watching
right now so
uh true fact uh a pup name i went on
like a
animation cells search on ebay the other
day because travis
you linked me to uh a place where i
could purchase some animation cells from
uh adventures in dinosaur city which i
then did
i i am now soon to be honored to
animation cells from adventures of
dinosaur city
but i learned that inspired from
fantasia yeah fantasia
uh but i did learn also that uh
a pup named scooby-doo sells on ebay
incredibly cheap
like you can go and get like a two
dollar animation cell from a pup named
scooby-doo
if you’re so inclined
well maybe my kids would be interested
just something to keep in your brain
um but you mentioned the huge star trek
uh
like kind of everybody that was in this
movie is an episode of star trek should
i throw that imagery up here
yeah i i thought i always find it
interesting when there’s like star trek
connections so
in this image we see matt frewer he was
in an episode of star trek the next
generation
where he’s playing a guy trying to
get some uh some technology from the
future because he he’s a time traveler
of course he is and then we see mark
taylor there
uh we see uh carl stephen
as young spock and then we see
amy o’neal um with the
young wesley yep
uh yeah great assortment of star trek i
mean
it there’s i can’t imagine a world where
matt fury didn’t end up in star trek
that would have been just a sadder place
yeah he made more appearances and
and i think uh deep space nine and
voyager as different characters i’m sure
yeah oh there was so many times
during our star trek watch where we’re
watching and
multiple people come up different times
yeah uh i believe yeah because that was
tv
man yeah that’s how they did it um
and then uh did you talk about this
other image yet or
or not quite yet yeah we can go ahead
and do that
the uh the film
you know is obviously a huge success and
disney at the time like in 89 that’s
around the time that
mgm studios was opening and so they
they built an attraction that was
a huge playset and it was if you ever
like just imagine yourself wanting to
dive into the world of this movie as a
kid
and slide down the the grass
blades and see giant rolls of film and
bees
and the the giant little dubby uh
i always saw promo i always saw
commercials for this when i was a kid
and i always
desperately wanted to go yeah it was
pretty amazing
um yeah it was
uh really really good times
was that at mgm mgm studios which is now
called hollywood studios
and the space where it used to be is now
where
galaxy’s edge is that’s right
that’s right i knew it was something
that replaced it i for some reason in my
head it was like cars world or something
that replaced it but cars world replaced
something else worthwhile
maybe like the hollywood backlot tour um
maybe there’s something that like cars
took over and i was just like oh that’s
sad
but um yeah
uh that stuff all looked amazing um we
also have this
also very intimidating as a child i
think i remember the first time like
seeing it being
kind of scared because did you get to
experience this yourself
yeah and intimidating yep oh that’s
amazing
is that i can’t quite no that’s not it
that’s not a giant cigarette butt in
this attraction is it i don’t think
no no i don’t have the image in front of
me that’s okay i don’t think it is
um i think it’s a crayon oh yeah yeah
that’s what that looks like
and then you sent this other picture of
of an actor and a kid
oh yes because uh this movie is being
sequalized
yeah rebooted like last year or reboot
uh
they announced recently that there’s a
movie called shrunk
in development in which crushed dad
will be playing a an older version of
nick zielinski
because we as a people are now just
stuck with josh gad
for however long that runs
i’m sorry i don’t love josh he’s fine i
have nothing against him he’s probably a
nice dude
he’s been doing good stuff during the
quarantine thumbs up for josh gad
as a as a human as a human
i totally buy him as an older nick
totally totally this is great
like physically why physically this is
great casting into it
um and rick moranis is going to be back
in that as well rick moranis is
unretiring insanity yeah
because also in preparation for this
movie i watched the uh
the prop culture episode in which they
they they they dove into the the props
for this movie
right and just to just to make sure
everybody knows what we’re talking about
pop culture is a show on disney plus
where they
take a movie and talk about all the
props
for that project um and they did an
episode on honest with the kids
and in which they they found out that
the original prop for the shrinking
machine
just kept getting altered for the
sequels and repurposed
yeah they didn’t leave it alone they
just kept messing with it which i was
like what
why did they do that and then you see
what it looks like by the time the third
film rolls around
we have that image yeah that’s up right
now i like the way it looks in the third
film i think it’s a cool design
it seems like a natural like sleekifying
evolution of the original
like you know mad scientist version so i
think design-wise it’s very nice but
nothing beats
the beauty of this original object yeah
but not at the expense of like
messing with the original prop i thought
that was crazy that they just didn’t
leave it alone and built a new one
man i don’t think that that i think that
if like you’re making a direct
video sequel in 1997 and they’re like
where can we save a few thousand dollars
they’re like well we have this original
prop and we can just like put stuff on
it rather than building it again from
scratch and some account was like
yes i guess
but anyway in that prop culture episode
they actually
undo all the changes that they did and
they rebuilt it
to look as it did in the original which
it’s such a character in and of itself
and the way that it is
yeah um it’s a wonderful design too it’s
an absolutely wonderfully crafted thing
just the craft in this movie
altogether is unbelievable
unbelievable craftsmanship all
throughout this film yeah
and in that episode as well the host
sits down with
present day rick moranis to talk about
the movie which
i was like wow i was not expecting this
this is great
yeah that interview is nice that
interview is
the only part of that i i find prop
culture to be a very crass
show i don’t i don’t really love it uh
uh and it also it also struck me as
as uh they’re they’re doing this this
new film right and
i can only imagine that uh
they restored their prop only because
they need to use it in the new
in the new movie and they’re like oh how
can
how can we milk this money we’re putting
into it ah let’s make a show about it
wow that makes sense that’s my that’s my
postulation
that that absolutely makes sense so
we’ll see if it makes an appearance if
it makes an appearance i just want to
say i called it
oh i’m sure it will um
yeah so yeah the rick moranis
interview in that episode i was like can
we just like watch like whatever
however many hours they did of this
uncut right like the full i would love
to watch just because he was such like a
quiet and introspective
kind of interview this like really
reserved kind of
kind of personality i did really like
his uh
his bit like he apparently still has
wayne zielinski’s glasses because
whenever
movies get because he wears prescription
glasses so whenever a movie would get
made
they’d make glasses for his character
and they’d make two pairs and he would
always
take a pair home and then just get spare
glasses so he just has
like the original wayne zelinski glasses
somewhere probably and
he had a bunch of other really cool
classic rick moranis character glasses
i’m sure
yeah that’s great yeah it is um we
didn’t really
talk about but um you know rick moranis
we we did you know say how he doesn’t
make movies anymore
and he retired and that was because of
the passing of his wife
and he wanted to focus on his family and
his kids and raising them
yeah so that’s why he ended up stepping
away from from hollywood and everything
yeah which admirable incredible
um he did make an album in the in his
retirement time a country album called
um
agoraphobic cowboy i think is the name
of it
uh you know the previous uh interview
i’d seen with rick moranis most recently
was
him discussing his music um did he
discuss his first album
you me the music and me oh i don’t know
that album’s from 1989 is hysterically
out of print like it’s unbelievable how
hard it is to even find a copy
let alone afford a copy um
and the final track on the album is him
covering autobahn by craftwork
it’s really weird it’s really weird
just seek out maybe you can find a clip
of autobahn as performed by rick moranis
and just put it into this podcast
if i did everybody just heard it yes
know that i i really tried manifest the
secret i think
i if i if you don’t have if you can’t
find it on youtube i can send it to you
nice so you’re all hearing it anyway
yeah
um oh uh
i think that might be
the extent of my notes prior to
us actually discussing our viewing notes
yeah uh we’re into it we’re an hour deep
into this podcast already
so uh strap in y’all cause we still got
like our viewing notes from this movie
uh i i guess i i do want to say too that
like
that personally for me the way that i i
like
fi learning all this background
information and presenting it within
talking about the movie because i
uh as i’ve grown older and as i’ve
learned new ways to appreciate the
things i love and all these things i
found one of
the things that’s most interesting to me
is placing
a creation into its context and with
films
that means to me figuring out who made
it what
what other stuff they worked on to bring
their own creative dna
to a particular project and the way all
these things come together that stuff’s
always incredibly interesting to me so
that’s why
i always uh really enjoy like
just clicking through imdb and seeing
what else these people have worked on
and like you know what else the cast has
done and these kinds of things so
and when we’re talking about a movie as
big as honey i shrunk the kids i guess
that ran away with us a little bit and
we wound up talking about that stuff for
like an hour
um yeah but i think that’s that’s okay
so much stuff to talk about yeah
and i i cut the stuff i was gonna talk
about
in half yeah there’s more i mean like
this is
like this is not one of the movies that
we’re gonna be like the podcast
authority on like
for future generations we are the only
word on like
and you thought your parents were weird
but like we’re like avoid dropping the
voice bucket for honey i shrunk the kids
but this is what’s interesting to us
about the movie
um so yeah let’s dive in opening title
sequence holy crap it’s amazing
it’s beautiful i love it it’s a perfect
opening to this movie
yeah the whole animated sequence paired
with the james horner’s score
is just incredible like i said just the
excitement and the danger that that
accompanies it
and they just don’t make opening titles
like that anymore no it used to see
these animated opening titles a lot back
in the day
and i have a note that this was like one
of three that year
the other one being christmas vacation
and troop beverly hills
interesting um yeah i was definitely a
motif for a while
uh as was a credit sequence and that’s
still
a kind of you know there’s still credit
sequences but they’re not
i haven’t seen one like this in a long
long time yeah um
and then after this the wonderfully
animated opening titles
which i always loved the visual of like
the kids like pushing through the
plastic window of the envelope after
they get stuff into the mailbox at the
very end
i always love that visual um
and uh we get back and then we go into
the live action part of the movie
there’s this
open this opening scene in the kitchen
is not unlike other
opening scenes that we’ve discussed
before where the camera visually goes
over a bunch of objects while a
character talks off screen and kind of
fills us in
on what these people are like yeah it’s
another inventor house it’s another
inventor house
back to the future just like and you
thought your parents were weird
yeah how many how many houses with labs
have we watched now is it is this three
or four
i think it’s three it’s at least three
because adventures in dinosaur city had
the very nice one
yeah which paid an homage to this movie
totally
uh yeah then parents and then this um
oh that was quick that’s nice
okay cool because i i didn’t want to go
on too much without
like being able to bounce stuff off with
you yeah
sorry that’s okay uh the
nick the youngest child is working on a
tiny version of the shrink ray which i
always thought
number one we see that before the shrink
ray which i think is a really
cool like visual foreshadowing of of
what we’re about to see like the little
scientist who looks like his dad
because he’s wearing his lab coat he’s
got similar glasses and similar hair
we see the miniaturized version of the
guy in his toy and then we cut up into
the attic and we see the real version of
the guy in his toy
but also the the little the little
version always kind of reminded me of um
in short circuit two at the beginning of
short circuit two
after the after the movie and the first
movie their program gets shut down so
the guy who designed the robot
fischer stevens and brownface is uh is
like has made like miniaturized versions
of the
the johnny five robots and is like
selling them on the street in new york
city so like
that always kind of made me think of
that like oh a small version of a cool
thing that i like
um i wanted to make the note like i
loved
amy getting tangled up in the phone cord
in this scene
too uh that’s just like one of those
things
that’s like lost to time getting tangled
up in a phone cord
um yeah kids watching this one today are
like what
what’s that right what’s the material
she’s caught up in
uh wayne zielinski inventor of early
texting for the household
uh instead of coming down or using any
kind of an intercom system he uses a
keyboard and a receipt printer to
communicate from the attic to the
kitchen which is just great
um yeah matt frewer
best always and forever uh we have the
first instance of him trying to use the
shrink ray when it just blows up an
apple
um i love that the computer that’s
animating what’s going on also
visualizes the apple disintegrating
yes it does um
yeah and then uh breakfast scene
uh we see their weird household phone
with the weird like mannequin finger
that lifts up or down i have i think
that whole setup what’s the point of it
having a finger
i think the whole setup for that because
where they have the phone resting i
think that’s a modem
so i think i think like it’s set up like
to remotely
dial up uh whatever version of online
access there was in 1989 i don’t think
it was called the internet yeah maybe it
was i don’t know
um but if wayne zielinski need to chat
with his buddies on like the bbs boards
uh and talk to the other scientists
although i don’t think he had any other
scientist friends based on a scene a
couple scenes from here
um but there’s also just like a big
floppy disk drive hanging out like a big
five and a half inch floppy disk drive
that’s hanging out on that table by the
telephone too
um yeah they did such a great job with
the
like the production design and all the
total inventions in the house
it’s just it’s beautiful it’s been
convention houses yeah in the 80s
yeah there’s nothing like them and it’s
the inventor dad from gremlins i think
of as well
yep just inventor dad was like a trope
kind of
it was um yeah man i mean and it’s not
not just the design in this movie of of
like these incredible like
household or homemade science project
things
like just the the craft of every level
of the fabrication of this movie like
the the scale stuff
everything it’s just beautiful like i
didn’t even make the note that often
because like literally every time i saw
a new thing i was just like oh my god
this is beautiful
but it’s how can you just you know we
can’t spend an entire podcast just
saying like every single prop is
beautiful but every single prop
is beautiful in this movie great work
team
mm-hmm such a good job it’s also in this
section of the movie where we get the
weird family
call that the families say to each like
kind of criticize each other when like
uh
you know the the russell family are just
kind of getting ready to go fishing and
wins lindsay calls him a weird family
and uh but then matt frewer responds by
responds with weird family to himself
when he just just sees a teenage girl
dancing which seems
like a weird thing to think that’s a
weird family for but you know whatever
yeah i think one of the funniest moments
in the movie is matt frewer trying to
lift a barbell
yeah the um sarah pointed this out to me
that matt frewer throughout the whole
movie
was very much he was doing like jim
carrey before jim carrey
even like came out on at the same time
yeah that’s actually super true
he does a lot of that kind of stuff in
this he does like a lot of the face
stuff and all of the physical comedy
like oh i could see
if you if jim carrey was like more i
mean he was obviously
in some things prior to this but if he
had been who he was in the early 90s
prior to this movie you’d think like oh
this guy is you know ripping off jim
carrey to a degree but
but now yeah uh mad for maybe tim kerry
was
inspired by maybe dude i mean yeah like
the fish yeah like you said the fish
thing and the
little reeling him in handshake weird
dance yeah he does a lot of very
and like the with the arrow getting
stuck to his head too
a lot of the work in that scene um
is matt frewer was 30 when they shot
this
oh yeah i read that too he does not
matter i guess has not aged well in his
life because he looks way older than
dirty in this movie
um so like you know the age difference
between him and little russ is 14 years
it’s not that much
um yeah so then
we get the shrink ray activation
right that’s what happens the ball gets
hit through the window from next door
and
conveniently activates the machine in a
surprisingly plausible seeming way
um yeah
which i don’t understand why like yeah i
don’t know that’s that’s like that’s the
one bit of the movies like nonsense
science i never understood where it’s
like
you know i don’t care like movie movie
nonsense science sure just tell me what
the science is supposed to be and i’ll
believe it for the sake of the movie but
it just seemed to me like
the laser is its own like separate
aspect of the entire build and seem to
be necessary within the thing but then
you find out like oh the laser was
destroying everything
then what did you think the laser was
doing i’m very curious to what the laser
is supposed to be getting to yeah like
why was there a laser in the first place
and then even later at the end of the
movie when he figures out when it gets
communicated
uh that it need that the laser was
blocked because the baseball
he just blocks the laser again with the
baseball he doesn’t like
he doesn’t deactivate the laser he
doesn’t like remove the laser it’s just
like oh we’ll just put the baseball back
great which again that was one of the
very few props they still kept
right the baseball itself which is
pretty cool that they kept that
um got it signed by the whole team
too uh there’s a
there’s a funny line when uh russ and
ron
come over to the zielinski house where
amy’s like
nick take him up to the attic and get
his ball and as they’re walking away
nick just mutters
this is what’s wrong with the american
system of justice
which i’m just thinking like yes nick
in your like eight-year-old estimation
that is what’s wrong with the american
institute of justice
yes that’s just really funny
yeah um good lines and then they go up
there
and then uh the comment is made your
dad’s still in contact with his own
planet
that’s a good line too and this is all
while zolin wayne is at
his conference and failing with failing
in front of the other scientists and
they’re hostile to him that was that was
really weird re-watching this i’m like
why are these scientists not just like
dismissive but like
hostile just like really angry at this
guy
like why like is he the nerd that’s even
picked
on in the community of nerds that he’s
supposed to be or
like part of like well a room of angry
science dorks is just funny
yes there’s a funny line at the end of
the scene which might
actually you know head cannon explain
that
oh which is his colleague is you know
telling him like oh it’s all right you
give him time
and the last line that he says as
they’re walking away is like you’re
right about the electric flea collar
the extension cord was a bad idea
which implies some terrible things so
yeah
maybe wayne zielinski might be
responsible for
for a death of one of their pets
i could see that being that all right
i’m down with that head cannon i’m there
i’m with it um
uh yes then the kids get shrunk the kids
get shrunk
it’s chaos uh along with some furniture
right the furniture gets shrunk which is
great i always loved the microscopic
little couch too um
then and then of course when he comes i
mean this fast forwards a little
but when he comes back and the couch is
gone
oh well the couch is gone too yeah
a giant piece of furniture disappeared
my house
along with the kids i’d be like well he
doesn’t notice it until he tries to sit
down
yeah he just sits down by muscle memory
and the couch is gone
um and he like i i do like that he goes
on his little rampage destroying the
machine although that
i wonder if there was something because
he does show him like reconstructing it
a bit but i wonder if there was ever a
version of the script where like that
was a bigger deal because he kind of
like really
messes it up yeah yeah um
i did think it was funny when when wayne
is sweeping up the room and the
character and the kids are running away
from
to try to avoid being swept up which of
course they are swept up and that’s how
the movie really gets going
but um they have the like the prometheus
running away problem where like
there’s the giant thing coming at them
and they could just run right or left
but instead they run directly away from
it
and then are eventually caught by it but
if they had gone right or left perhaps
they could have escaped
or same problem with the ships under one
of those cracks they were trying to
avoid her
yeah that would have worked too um but
whatever i mean
but just the prometheus logic i call it
because
that i can’t remember who died but that
guy didn’t have to die just could have
run to the left or right
i really like prometheus by the way too
so oh yeah me too
i like all the alien films all of them
except avp requiem don’t really like
that one so much but all the other ones
i’m good with
um james horner uh yeah
so that’s the connection there and
that’s a great score
um so yeah then the kids get out of the
house they’re
put into a garbage bag and the next time
we see
anything is there they use i guess a
small shard of glass to slice this hole
in the garbage bag and
that’s when we really first see the
scale of the giant backyard world i
always loved the
the the visual of cutting out of the bag
too it always
like whatever thick sheet of vinyl they
used like really was like oh this looks
like a plastic bag i don’t know it just
it all works so well aesthetically and
and like in a physical way in a physical
tactile way
all the things that are playing as in
large versions of themselves really feel
correct
um yeah from the instant they get shrunk
down in the lab and they’re on the floor
and all of the details there just it
just feels so right
yeah totally and you know i’m just
aw immediately of like once again like
we were talking about with toys
in the lab and then in the backyard just
the the huge
giant sets that they made for this is
absolutely incredible
um the backyard set is like oh my god
and then like pretty soon even we’re
treated to a wonderful bee
this bee is amazing um
i love all the effects work on the bee
the bee
pov photography is just like so funny
and it’s really really good it’s really
good
it’s really yeah um how
do you think they shot that because i
think they probably used
a similar method like with the uh
speeder bike sequence in return of the
jedi
or i think there’s probably like a guy
with um like some kind of a gimbal
and he’s shooting it oh yeah dude and
then they speed it up
yeah i would think so um
yeah that would have been some kind of
rig it didn’t seem it didn’t seem like
it was steadicam but maybe it was steady
cam and just kind of like wobbly
steadicam but it definitely seemed a bit
undercranked when we were in the pov
camera
um to give it that extra kind of
intensity
which is like if there was one kind of
like fault in the physics of any of this
it’s that um
and it’s not even a fault because it’s
supposed to feel this way like the
the big the little objects are now huge
to the kids
and to convey the hugeness the objects
all kind of move with like
they all kind of move in a little bit of
slow motion
when they wouldn’t like it would just be
like this really intense chaos like
like when he’s destroying the machine in
the lab
you know get away from like the this
little little resistors and stuff
like that would just be like like really
fast but you know
for the sake of the kind of grandiose
nature of what they’re seeing
it’s a little bit slowed down so it’s
not really a fault of the physics but
just like yeah
you know the movie plays with that kind
of stuff it’s stuff that they do
like that it’s always been kind of a
trope and you know kind of portraying
large things and something they still do
disney still does to this day
with like ant-man when he becomes giant
man
the same stuff where he moves slowly
why isn’t he moving quickly at normal
speed yeah
yeah it’s an aesthetic thing um
and uh yeah it’s the b and then
after that we wayne discovers the
machine works he kind of figures it out
um and now that’s when we really start
getting into the great physical comedy
that he
that we get from rick moranis in this
movie when he first goes out with the
crutches
and uh the binoculars attached to the
helmet
and like tramping along the lawn and
uh the hose and sprinkler antics and the
huge chaos it causes
what a great sequence in the movie that
is like
yes the sound design um
wow like wow
yeah just uh the according to a bunch of
different things
that just droplets of water like
like their bombs going off everywhere is
so great
it’s it’s wonderful visually the sound
that accompanies is so
so great uh and like the
whatever they did like it didn’t it
wasn’t water it was like
some kind of like goo it was some kind
of
something viscous that they were using
so like it gives us this really
goopy gross texture which like gets
really gross when
uh big or little russ has to save amy
from drowning in mud
that looks really gross in this movie as
a kid i’m like
remember how the water looks when
they’re small because
it’s gross um which like
given their size and the surface tension
of water that’s probably more or less
how it would actually look on something
that scale
um or they would not sink at all they
might even be able to maybe they would
be on top of the water yeah uh
but yeah what a great just a great
sequence
um yeah it’s around the time we’ve seen
the foresters and kimmy robertson blah
blah
oh yeah and it’s about this time he
makes the the hammock
and she’s like he’s so worried about the
foresters
and the fact that they can’t go and what
is he going to tell him and she’s like
why don’t you like tell him the truth
and he’s like what kind of an excuse is
that
what kind of excuses we don’t know where
the kids are we can’t tell them that
yeah the what a weird what a weird dad
reaction
um and tells him
instead that his wife is feelings i
think he kind of just implies that his
wife is on her period and like that’s
why they think
i’m like is this is that what he’s
implying yeah yeah
how that’s more acceptable than my kids
are missed
yeah and that was that was weird i don’t
understand
there’s no actual plot function of those
characters at all they come
and russ makes an excuse and they leave
and that’s
it all they do that’s it like it could
have just been like oh yeah we rented a
cabin and that’s
80 deposit and that could be the 80
deposit great but like
the character yeah it’s it’s weird i
wonder if those were like a vestige left
over
in a way yeah possibly um
or if there was more of them that got
cut somewhere else
uh maybe they had maybe that fifth kid
that died was originally supposed to be
theirs
[Laughter] and then it didn’t really matter because
they yeah because it’s the family that
doesn’t live there so who cares about
their kid
[Laughter] and then wayne makes the even better
searching in the backyard contraption
out of
the hammock counterweighted by a
television and
like the cable box still attached to it
or something
which that entire thing i’m looking at
i’m like where’s it being supported from
how did he put this together in an
afternoon
well he he uh had one end of the strings
tied up in his attic and the other end
of the strings he had tied up on like a
nearby telephone pole
yeah and had the whole thing coming off
of like a bar
that was on a wheel it was like a re
like very
impressively thrown together in a very
short amount of time
um yeah you give me that same project
um maybe in a week maybe yeah
especially to climb up the phone pole i
mean that seems like an afternoon’s work
by itself to me
yeah um but uh
yeah and it was funny hearing him talk
about that too in that pop culture
episode where he was talking about like
oh that was like the easiest part i just
got to lay in a hammock and say words
[Music] just great just really wonderful um
so yeah now we’re getting to the point
of the movie the kids are moving on from
the safety of this rock that they were
briefly at which is like halfway across
the yard
they calculated that for them the yard
was about three miles
long that was about their trip um so
like halfway through their journey
and they find what looked like the most
delicious thing i’d ever seen when i was
a kid
which is the giant oatmeal cookie yeah
oh um yeah i wanted that thing so bad
when i was a kid i’m like i
just want to interact with a cookie
that’s this large please
yeah every time yeah you uh you know i
would have one of those as a kid
you just think about that movie yeah and
then uh
i showed this movie to my son last year
and after seeing it i i went out and i i
got
some of those little debbie oatmeal
cream pies to be like
this is the thing from the movie and
those do not hold up as well as this
movie does no they’re not good
no those those uh occasionally wind up
at um
craft surface tables and uh i tried one
a couple years ago and i was just
thoroughly bummed out actually
but those will be making really i trust
the kids when you ate it
it’s very possible that i was like oh
this doesn’t taste as good as that giant
one looked
yeah uh if they left like one of the
the swiss cake rolls or a ding-dong or
something maybe
yeah anytime ding-dongs come up i just
think of
weirdos fat video where
it’s the intro and the guy’s just going
like yo
ding dong man ding dong
trying to get al to just buckle and eat
it
oh man anyway ding dongs
um and the aunt friend
they meet auntie uh
just beautiful auntie is beautiful um
that’s just an amazing creation he was
he was stop motion he was a full
animatronic he was a partial animatronic
he was
all the effects and it’s just a
wonderful cell all the way through with
his character
um yeah it was just so great and
disney yet again making movies about
shrinking people that befriend
ants that die at the end i have a note
about how he dies it’s like really
sad actually yeah it’s really dark
um he’s just a baby he’s just a baby
several times uh
yeah um i think it’s also
because i also noticed on the imdb cast
list uh
frank welker is a voice in this movie so
i wonder if it was frank welker doing
the
the ant sounds i’m sure it was frank
walker doing the
sounds and even the scorpion sounds and
any creature sounds yeah oh probably the
maybe the uh
the uh butterfly like they first see
when they’re
first small yeah um
yeah and then like using the ant as a
sled dog is just
great um and of course
dog induced contraption antics when
cork sees like the dangling rope on on
the spinning hammock contraction and
just
contraption just goes for it and twists
up wayne and then wayne goes like
launching into russell’s backyard into
the pool
and then russell just kind of shakes his
head like there’s no follow-up on that
it’s like i’m going out there to
yell it out just like that’s that’s my
next-door neighborhood zielinski
which uh rick moranis actually did that
stunt did he
yeah that’s awesome yeah throw me across
the fence that sounds great
um i had a note in here that there was a
cut
in there that i really liked when he was
uh in the contraption and he’s looking
around
and they they have the shot of him going
over
and like looking directly into the
camera with the magnifying glass
and it cuts to like these huge leaves of
what you think is grass and it’s the
house plant inside of the thompson house
oh that’s right that is a great cut yeah
because it’s that is that wonderful like
the camera is like straight up down here
and just looking straight up
and wayne passes over yeah it’s a great
cut
um and this is now uh
the russell has or russell’s wife what
what’s this other family called the
thompsons
the thompsons have called the police
because they are reasonable human beings
that don’t understand that a mad
scientist has shrunk their children so
they call the police which is
a reasonable course of action but of
course as
as uh many people in the nation have
been learning
these cops are just as much useless
[ __ ] as anybody
um but uh
you know not that they could have helped
in this but they are kind of like
unhelpful jerk police
and uh which the guy who said mm-hmm
that’s this is his only credit on imdb
he does pretty well uh there is a funny
follow-up gag with these cops
because uh because diane calls too
because she doesn’t know the kids are
yet shrunk
um and so they get back into their car
they see if they have another call for
two missing kids and it’s from the
silinsky house and i don’t know if you
noticed this travis but there’s this
detail on the screen that zelinskis have
12 noise complaints against them
or 12 counts of disturbing a piece or
something and it’s like oh yeah that’s
that’s russell thompson calling the
police on zielinski all the time
um i thought that was really funny and
then we get the titular
line scene where where wayne tells diane
what’s going on and that’s a perfect
scene
it’s a really funny really yeah really
great little scene
um great i’ll be here the lights and the
magnifying glass and he’s got to turn
his head so that she can see the couch
yeah like he she just grabs the
magnifying glass and like wrestles his
head kind of and then
the police show up and she faints and
it’s like it’s a really funny scene it’s
a really
really tight funny little scene um
and i i do love also like so often
uh especially in movies that we’ve
talked about like families
accept these fantastical realities for
no reason other than the movie needs
them to
you know like uh like for example again
the same actress accepting
the reality of like alan her dead
husband alan thicke being in a robot and
and you thought your parents were weird
but in this
it’s like wayne is like okay look look
at the couch and she’s like oh my god it
works
so she like actually understands like
understands and respects her husband’s
work and understands like
oh yes you have been working on this and
it worked so it’s
not actually a leap for once it’s not
actually a leap for the spouse to
believe
the absurd science fiction reality in
which she’s being with which she’s being
presented
yeah um she’s familiar with the machine
he’s been working on right as well
whereas and you thought your parents
were weird when she sees the robot for
the first time she’s like
oh this is the thing right that i’ve not
seen
right until now so i think that was a
nice
you know it’s not like a huge thing but
it’s like this kind of like
just a subtle little thing like her
buying it makes sense for once inside
the movie universe
yeah there’s also stuff like their
relationship that’s
implied at the beginning like they had a
fight the night before and she slept at
her mom’s which i’d never really like
paid attention to as a kid but watching
it as an adult i’m like whoa
this is yeah there seems to be
there seems to be some characterization
that because like i said all the
characters have their arcs and that’s
actually coming up where like all their
arts arcs kind of start getting realized
all around the same time
um but at the same time
uh it’s not as those things
aren’t as shaded in as maybe they could
be because we’re spending so much time
on the adventure aspect of the movie
which again isn’t something to like
fault the movie with necessarily
but like there is this subtext that i
like you i didn’t really get until this
most recent time around because like
nick asks the very end like are you and
oh no amy asks at the end like are you
and dad okay
i think right yeah and um and yeah and
cause
because wayne’s arc i mean i’m jumping
ahead i’m just going to jump ahead to
get to this note
and because i’m talking about it now um
like all at the same time kind of like
russ
realizes that he isn’t as connected to
his kids as he probably should be
and wayne realizes he’s too invested in
his work
and that’s kind of the only
thing for for wayne really like we
actually i feel like that that arc is
better defined
in russ than it is in wayne um
[Music] i think it’s really clearly defined in
russ and i think his arc is actually
maybe of like if you’re just looking at
like what the characters go through in
the course of the film his arc is like
maybe the strongest in terms of like
change from beginning to end
um but yeah wayne’s like getting lost in
his work at the cost of his family i
don’t know
how how clearly that comes across at the
very beginning of the film
yeah that’s all yeah um
and then the kids in this like very
close to that same scene
get get there you know little russ
realizing that
uh something just like getting in touch
with himself and realizing kind of who
he is as a person he’s
like a more sensitive guy than maybe his
dad wants him to be
and amy realizing that like popularity
isn’t everything
but like also i don’t know if we really
knew that she was like a popular kid
before she talks about being a popular
kid in that scene
did i miss something i
yeah i i don’t know how clear that was
up until that
so that’s a little money but characters
have arms and that’s my point yeah
you’ve got like the ron thompson
character like
connecting with auntie right and girl
yeah
it’s a bit um becoming less insufferable
uh and like i i also noted like
all of these all these character things
are like totally schmaltzy like
kids movie stuff but like all the
performances all around and the
character turns are predictable but the
performances all around are like
charming enough that it just doesn’t
matter uh
the movie succeeds wildly successful
despite these
like little shortcomings um
yeah but backtracking a little bit is
where ron becomes a
he like connects with auntie and he
becomes a better person there
um i i made the note that i love that
wayne has enough like random parts to
construct another
headlight and magnification helmet for
diane
and it’s like different parts he has
different floodlights and like a
different helmet
yeah just like smoking subplot in this
movie is something you’d never see in a
disney movie now entirely
or i mean how many movies period
true i mean but i feel like especially a
disney film yeah
um and it’s like that was part of the
character like he only smoke like he
you know as a kid said he only smokes
when he’s really worried
um the movie which they took that as
like oh it’s uh
dad’s actually he cares about right
dad’s concerned about us and again that
like
matt frewer’s character has a pretty
good arc in this movie um
yeah the huge lego is a nice touch i
like the huge lego
that they get to sleep in um
and then they send uh auntie off uh
harry and the henderson style
or they try they don’t you don’t go
harry in the henderson style
um and that’s interesting too
like thinking about that as a kid you
buy that and i buy that as an adult for
in context of the movie i totally buy it
but just like as an adult i’m thinking
like there’s no way you can communicate
with an ant
there’s no way that’s not how they do it
like the
like they didn’t hear you right like the
stick with food
like to make him go i one million
percent by that for ant behavior like a
million percent
but like trying to be like go and then
the aunt being like no but i like you
guys
i’ll protect you i’m like yeah that’s
not how aunt brains go
no um but it works great in the movie
uh and then of course we get to the
scorpion fight
um did i miss did i jump jump ahead too
far and i missed something you had a
note about
oh no not at all yeah um terrifying
and that’s also the word i had was
terrifying that scorpion is so scary and
that’s phil
tippett’s studio
um and just scary
and on the edge of your seat and then
super sad knowing work
and how it happens so like during the
course of the fight
the scorpion uh
stabs auntie in the back
nanty goes down and then the kids kind
of fight off the scorpion with
torches and sticks um
and then
they’re like where’s auntie where’s
auntie they go find auntie and then
ron is so sad it just goes he’s gonna be
okay
and then auntie immediately thereupon
dies
just like immediately after like he’s
gonna be okay and then it’s the
slump um just dark
that’s like a really dark part of the
movie um
[Music] i would have preferred a fifth kid die
would have preferred than anti
maybe if ron died maybe if ron was the
fifth kid and it’s like oh ron’s dead
great and we’ll have to see ron
um i also want to say that uh
while that that scorpion is so
terrifying that this movie gave me an
unrealistic expectation regarding the
prevalence of scorpions in neighborhood
backyards
uh yeah because scorpions i don’t think
are very common to many
backyard climates in the united states
or at least not where i grew up they
were not maybe there’s other parts of
the u.s where you really have to worry
about scorpions in your backyard and
i’m just like uninformed upon about
these areas
but uh yeah you know
scorpions are terrifying between this
movie and uh
hook with the blue box yeah yeah
like it chalk it up chuck scorpions
right up there with like uh quicksand as
things that i thought were going to be
huge issues as an adult but
uh we’re not
um yeah
uh auntie dies right
uh it’s the next morning now
uh we have the kid coming back over to
mow the lawn tommy comes back over to
the lawn um sleep doing his work
mm-hmm um
who says i wrote down a quote because i
just really liked these
this set of words but i didn’t write
down who said it and i can’t remember
something’s very weird here who said
that
somebody said something’s very weird
here and i i like that line it’s a great
set of words i don’t know
um
[Music] i don’t know who said that it’s in this
part of the movie i have it under the
remote
control bomb or headline anyway uh
there’s this there’s this little little
comedy moment
and like to describe it takes longer for
them than the moment
takes to happen but so like wayne
like basically reconstructed his machine
fell asleep
diane wakes them up they’re gonna eat
breakfast
then they hear the lawnmower oh no
breakfast is after
they stop and then they have they have
breakfast after the lawn mower thing but
they’re in the attic they hear the
lawnmower
then they they run outside they run
downstairs run to the backyard to save
the children from being cut out by the
lawnmower
um
amazing terrifying the the prop of the
lawnmower the remote-controlled
lawnmower is a wonderful thing
um again a score yeah
so great one of my tracks in the score
it’s got the
the organ that just like announces that
the doom
that the the lawnmower is bringing yeah
the church organ sound yeah
um but there’s this moment when they’re
trying to run out the back door like
wayne gets to the back door it opens
inward so he starts to open it diane
comes up right behind him like crashes
into him which forces the door closed
and then he just like
gives her a look and then like opens the
door and they leave
i just love that he turns around and was
like why did you do that
you know how this door did you think
that was works
an improv kind of a thing so i think
that was just like a little rick moranis
reaction thing or just like that’s
probably what physically happened like
she ran into him the door closed
but that’s just a great great little
comedy beat and
maybe it wasn’t funny to me when i was a
kid but it’s really funny to me now
because it also reminds me of a moment
in bill and ted’s bogus journey where
they’re all
where the kids are about to be sucked
into the lawnmower because what happens
is the parents come out
tommy just stops working on the
lawnmower he just lets go of the control
so it just stays in one place and is
going to suck the kids out of their
hiding space
in the earthworm hole
and uh and like there’s one point where
like amy’s just they’re all screaming
amy’s just screaming
and then amy pauses the screaming to
assess the totality of the danger
and then resume screaming at the exact
same pitch at which she just was
which i always really liked i loved like
the pausing to assess
and then just like oh no it’s bad
like that reminds me of this moment in
bill and ted’s bogus journey when they
when they’re going to hell and they’re
falling down that
never-ending pit and like they’re just
screaming and screaming and screaming
and then they’re just still falling and
they’re just like
dude this is a totally deep hole yeah
and they shrug and just go back to
screaming cause i don’t know what else
to do
um so yeah love that moment
uh and then the kids you know the lawn
mowers turned off
they almost get rescued but not quite
then tommy off because it’s safer
because it’s safer to go through the
house yeah and then uh tommy shakes
he’s watched them assessing what what
has happened
and as he leaves he shakes his head and
he goes
and i thought my folks were weird
announcing the next movie that we would
see her yes
foreshadowing reality um
and uh then the kids escape on the dog
which i always loved like the
look of the dog hair close up like these
big foam strands or whatever they
actually were
um and of course the dog has to get past
like the evil cat
that’s the next neighbor’s cat i just
wanted to go on record as saying i
disagree with this movie’s view of cats
yeah they always have to you know
portray the cats in the villainous way
i know i don’t i’m not with it disney
cats aren’t the villains
cats are the ones keeping the mice away
from the farm just
just saying uh cats are the best
better than dogs uh i know you have dogs
too i’m sorry
just cats oh oh that’s right i remember
i didn’t know you hadn’t gotten a new
dog yet though
anyway no digressions um
[Music] but now we get into the sequence where
they find the kids right
uh and the the entirety again another
perfect sequence in the movie
the entirety of the cereal bowl sequence
and with nick and the spoon and just
like everything like the whole sequence
is just
so great um yeah
i mean and thank goodness they they got
on the dog too because
yeah getting to the house is one thing
and then
getting inside the house and getting
their parents attention
yeah what was the problem there uh i
think maybe it never even
hit me that hard as a kid that they were
they really understood that the dog was
the only
thing that could really hear them and
were exploiting that
as much as they could um and i like that
that’s like
i thought that was a nice little plot
device yeah because they tried to do
that at the beginning
and then the cat shoes the dog away
right that this evil cat do not agree
um but yeah i mean this is you know this
that scene and that the imagery from
that scene is like
rightfully famous because it’s just so
good
um and uh so
wayne finds him uh it’s great wayne
finds him
and they get him up and they’re trying
to figure out what’s wrong with the
machine
why is it still just blowing up apples
they have the thompsons over
and they communicate through charades in
a magnifying glass that it’s the
baseball
they figure it out and this is just
another like mechanic
mechanic thing that like like why is the
movie why did it do this
so we see it blow up an apple again and
then we they learn what the thing is
and then wouldn’t the next course of
action to you to be just try it on an
apple again another inanimate object yes
rather than like going straight to human
has to be a person um which like i
understand it for the mechanics of the
movie
like it just needs to go at that point
we don’t want to see another apple thing
we just want
things to happen now but that that just
struck me as funny and then i always
thought that
the gag with like russ’s hat being too
big for him afterward like he stayed a
little bit small
i think that’s a really funny gag yeah
um i already talked about like wouldn’t
it be more effective just
remove the laser uh
and yeah kids are big now this nice
reunion scene you know she doesn’t care
amy doesn’t care about popularity she’ll
go to the dance with russ
the dads shake hands um
[Music] you know it’s a nice little ending and
they have thanksgiving
with a giant giant turkey which
foreshadows the sequel
yes oh yeah and porsche and the giant
dog dog treat
now here’s the thing that struck me for
the first time
uh viewing it today is
if every part of that food is enlarged
the texture also has to be really
enlarged right so wouldn’t the
texture like enlarged turkey texture
be really weird like really weird
i’m sure it would be i i kind of had a
similar thought while they’re eating the
the the big cookie right like
wouldn’t you it wouldn’t be creamy like
that it would be right you’d be
if you have giant granule granules of
sugar
right like it’s almost down to
constituent parts at that point right
like
so yeah i just i don’t think i would
want to eat big food
is my only point i think the texture
would be very weird
um and the last joke in the movie is
like i get it
french class which i actually think is
just a really bad joke
they yeah they wanted to go out on that
joke and it’s just not a very good joke
but whatever movie you do you because
the rest of it’s so good that i
you can forgive like a bad joke at the
very end of it
um so
yeah that’s did i skip over anything
that you wanted to bring up during the
the course of the movie
uh no really the only thing i wanted to
say was
my favorite line in the movie which is
when
they’re explaining to the thompsons what
happened and
they’re like wait what are you saying
that that machine blew up my kids
and wayne goes no no no if the machine
had blown up the kids there’d be pieces
of them everywhere
i wrote that line down too
yeah that’s like that’s really classic
yeah that’s like
that’s wayne zelinski’s problem right
that’s his like character’s problem
encapsulated in that line is he’s not
thinking about like
oh no i will reassure you by saying no
no no no your kids are safe instead it’s
like oh no it doesn’t work that way like
if
it worked that way like they’d obvious
you’d be gore everywhere
you it’s like very classic mad
scientist-y kind of stuff
um yeah and russ is like so anti
russ was really like anti-science in
general
in that scene too um which struck me as
you know uh you know i kind of
have an idea of what kind of a modern
day person matt freeware’s character
would be
if he had that attitude toward the
scientist next door but um yeah
but uh yeah i just thought that was
funny
um
these people hate wayne so much um
yeah honey i shrunk the kids what a
great movie yeah
they hate him the all of his colleagues
hate him
right totally
um but his family loves him again so
it’s all good
and they go they go to a vacation in
vegas in the next movie so who can who
can be mad at that
it goes the their family is so good the
relationship that he has with his wife
is so good after this movie that by the
time the next one rolls around they have
a two-year-old
yeah that’s true they got down to
business
as it were then uh amy goes off to
college
yeah which we’ll discuss that um
yeah we haven’t we haven’t officially
announced it but we might as well right
now we have discussed it we’re just
totally gonna watch honey i blow up the
kid for next week’s episode
because yeah i i always really liked
honey i love the kid and it’s definitely
i haven’t seen it in a
longer period of time than uh honey i
shrunk the kids
so i’m very interested for that
especially as
we both know it was adapted you told me
you reminded me the original title of
the movie which was big baby
yes it was originally a totally
unrelated screenplay
called big baby that disney was like oh
we could totally make this honey i
shrunk the kid’s sequel
um which i kind of love when movies do
that where it’s just like an unrelated
spec script it’s like oh
this could fit very easily into
something that we already have an
audience for
let’s do that um or something that was
meant to be another
series like die hard with a vengeance
was
originally going to be a lethal weapon
movie that’s right that’s right
that kind of stuff i think
something some movie was supposed to be
under siege
too and then became a different movie
altogether i can’t remember what that
was either
but it happens in the reverse way
sometimes too
not so much anymore i think that’s a
less common thing as
studios have just become kind of more
reliant on
uh just like using writers like
you know like totally replaceable people
and
just like hammering a franchise to the
ground
but yeah that’s what they do that’s what
they do
yeah that’s the money honey i shrunk the
kids
which is just still a great movie
holds up all around visually and
just with the performances and the sets
it’s
the james horner score and i believe
this is still joe johnston’s best movie
uh that’s probably true yeah that’s i
think that’s almost certainly true
yeah joe johnson one of my earliest
memories seeing a movie in the theater
is this movie oh nice
that’s cool it’s possible i saw this one
in the theater
but i i don’t recall i know i had it on
tape as a kid and i know i had it on
tape as a kid before i was able to read
because it had a big
before i was able to really read my
parents would just put a big letter that
denoted
the movie so like my alice in wonderland
tape had a big a
on it and on honey shrimp the kids was a
big h i knew that was my honey i shrunk
the kids tape
yes yeah i’m pretty sure it retained i’m
pretty sure my dad dubbed it from
uh a rental and so uh
tummy trouble was on the front of it my
dad would always my dad had two vcrs and
one of them was from before macro vision
copy protection was a thing
so it didn’t look for it so anytime we
he rented a movie
he would dub the movie usually um
yeah alex brunel history uh
so yeah i think that taps me out on i’m
talking about
this movie dude all right well
we’ll be back to discuss
the zelinski’s further adventures next
week
yes and make something big
yes uh in the meantime
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